They Get Their Own Facts
["…you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts." quoted in Timothy J. Penny, Facts Are Facts, National Review September 4, 2003. - via Wikipedia]
Well, it turns out, some people think that they ARE.
Entitled to their own facts, I mean. They call themselves "Conservapedia," and they formed just after the last -- from the internal evidence, disastrous to their political ends -- election.
And they are bat-shit barking moonbat crazy. Don't believe me? Here's Conservapedia's version of the origin of kangaroos:
OriginsLast and least, "the evolutionary view," e.g. "science."
According to the origins theory model used by creation scientists, modern kangaroos, like all modern animals, originated in the Middle East and are the descendants of the two founding members of the modern kangaroo baramin that were taken aboard Noah's Ark prior to the Great Flood. It has not yet been determined by baraminologists whether kangaroos form a holobaramin with the wallaby, tree-kangaroo, wallaroo, pademelon and quokka, or if all these species are in fact apobaraminic or polybaraminic.
[NOTE: "Baraminology" is a 'Creationist' pseudoscience analogous to the non-fundy pseudosciences Numerology or Phrenology. Wikipedia, conveniently, has THIS entry. HW]
Also according to creation science theories, after the Flood, kangaroos bred from the Ark passengers migrated to Australia. There is debate whether this migration happened over land -- as Australia was still for a time connected to Europe by a land bridge similar to the one that connected Asia to America -- or if they rafted on mats of vegetation torn up by the receding flood waters. Another theory is that God simply generated kangaroos into existence there.
Other views on kangaroo origins include the belief of some Australian aborigines that kangaroos were sung into existence by their ancestors during the "Dreamtime" and the evolutionary view that kangaroos and the other marsupials evolved from a common marsupial ancestor which lived millions of years ago.
They want their own facts.
Anyone who believes that kangaroos got to Australia by surfing in on giant welcome mats of torn up sod after The Flood is a few wafers short of a communion.
Tellingly, perhaps, the website opens with threats of terrible punishments:
Minors under 16 years use this site.
* Posting of obscenity here is punishable by up to 10 years in jail under 18 USC § 1470.
* Vandalism is punishable up to 10 years in jail per 18 USC § 1030. We will trace your IP address and give it to authorities if necessary.
Gee, I just wanted to view the website that crows the equivalent of 'We're number one, even BIGGER than Rush Limbaugh!'(to be fair, he's been on a diet).
A conservative encyclopedia you can trust.
Conservapedia has over 4,800 educational, clean, and concise entries, including more than 350 lectures and term lists. There have been over 3,600,000 page views and over 38,300 page edits. This site is growing rapidly.
Conservapedia jumps to Number One!
Traffic ranking among conservative websites as of March 8th (by Alexa):
Conservapedia is an online resource and meeting place where we give full credit to Christianity and America. Conservapedia is student-friendly. You will much prefer using Conservapedia compared to Wikipedia if you want concise, clean answers free of "political correctness".
- Rush Limbaugh
- Sean Hannity
- Bill O'Reilly
Contributions that comply with simple commandments are respected (and improved) to the maximum extent possible. Please improve this website as you use it, and please cite your sources. With your help, Conservapedia will continue to be an online encyclopedia you can trust. This is also a meeting place, and appropriate questions may be posted at Ask questions.
And WHO is behind this moonbattiness?
We turn to their own media for the answer:
Conservapedia Challenges 'Anti-Christian' Wiki
By Linda Zhang
Christian Post Contributor
Tue, Mar. 06 2007 02:44 PM ET
The latest alternative to Wikipedia is putting a conservative Christian spin on the idea of web-based, user-controlled encyclopedias.
Conservapedia, the new online encyclopedia launched last November, has branded itself as "a much-needed alternative to Wikipedia, which is increasingly anti-Christian and anti-American."
"Conservapedia is an online resource and meeting place where we favor Christianity and America," the front page of its website reads...
The backstory they're not telling you in the "Christian Post" is partially filled in by this entry in the New York Times BLOG:
According to Wired, the Conservapedia project leader, Andrew Schlafly, "started the site in late November 2006 in conjunction with 58 high-school-level, home-schooled students from the New Jersey area" because he was frustrated by what he sees as the liberal bias in Wikipedia.
(Yep, that's right: the NYTimes blog cribbed it from Wired.com, but then, this story has been stumbling forward in its media rollout -- thanks to free publicity, like THIS article, he said self-referentially -- since mid-February.)
And, the blogosphere has been quite hilariously aware of this intellectual abomination. Blogger Mike Dunford writes on 'The Questionable Authority':
... I had originally planned to ask if anyone could find the errors in this little bit of "historiness," but that would be far too easy. So instead, I'm wondering if anyone can find a full sentence in that entry that doesn't contain at least one large error.
I really can't believe that homeschooling standards are so ridiculously lax that this material is allowed to be used.
But, alas, the agenda of the "creationisizer" of "Conservapedia" becomes apparent once one knows the rock from whence he crawled out from under. Neath. Onward. The "Christian Post" writer continues:
Conservapedia's project leader, Andy Schafly, describes the site as "a new way of learning about history and science," according to a reporter from the New Scientist. The website claims to provide "concise answers free of 'political correctness.'"(Note: they're cribbing from WIRED, too. Check the followup posting, with "The Seven Drinking Buddies of Cthulu")
Schlafly originally created Conservapedia together with 58 high-school-level students and home-schooled children, and he suggests it could ultimately be used by teachers as a reference point.
According to Wired News, Schlafly says "the site is intended as a resource for the general audience, but without the defects of Wikipedia." Schlafly, the son of famous conservative politician and activist Phyllis Schlafly, is a conservative writer and attorney.
Yeah, defects like thought, or facts, or critical thinking. Make no mistake about it: this is about having their own facts, and that has been the basis too many wars and civil wars to feel any comfort about this errant, calculated madness. Unlike much of the press and sane blogosphere, I do not take this vile spawn of Phyllis Schlafly's son as benign or as a joke.
Phyllis, one must recall, is a woman who was instrumental in denying equal rights to a majority of Americans, i.e. Women. The worst Segregationist ever minted never equaled that record. Arguably, the European minority managed a far greater feat by denying personhood to every inhabitant of the continent, the "Native Americans," the "Indians," or, in the coinage of Kiowa author Russell Bates, "Novamundians" (from the Latin for "New Worlders").
Gee, let's see what the "Conservapedia" says about "Injuns":
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Collective name for those people living in North and South America before the coming of Europeans. Current anthropological and historical models have the first Native Americans crossing the Bering land bridge between 15,000 and 11,000 years ago. Hunter-gatherers from Asia migrated south to eventually inhabit all of North and South America. Indians in the New World developed complex societies and many were sedentary agriculturalists at the time of contact with Columbus. Unfortunately, contact with Europeans led to a decrease in the Indian population due to lack of immunity to disease, intermarriage, slavery, and massacre. Native populations have been estimated to range from 8 to 18 million before contact. Since 1492, this population was estimated to have fallen by 95% before stabilizing and then reversing direction. (Thornton, 1997)
Thornton, Russell. 1987. Aboriginal North American Population and Rates of Decline, ca. 1500-1900 CE. Current Anthropology 38(2):310 -315.
Well, cribbed, perhaps, but not well cribbed.
And I had never realized that the American indian population decreased because of their lack of immunity to slavery and massacre. I would hope, parenthetically, that we could develop some sort of vaccine to immunize us against massacre. It would be a great boon, given the track record of human history.
What troubles me, though, is how the American Indians were able to walk across the land bridge some 5000 to 9000 years before God created the Earth. It is, as said the King of Siam, a puzzlement.
And how did Russell Thornton write the EXACT same article in both 1987 AND 1997? And isn't "C.E" bad and wrong? Isn't it supposed to be the "un-PC" "A.D" and "B.C."?
I wonder what the "American Indians" think about this post, shorn, as it is, of the "defects" of Wikipedia (and, while there are defects, the Reality Principle DOES, at least, operate on Wikipedia.) Compare the "American Indians" citation above with Wiki's:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from American Indians)
American Indian can refer to:
- Native Americans in the United States;
- Any of the indigenous peoples of the Americas;
- Classification of indigenous peoples of the Americas
- The quarterly publication of the National Museum of the American Indian
Also, note that "American Indians" is almost never used to refer to persons with ancestry in India. Americans with ancestry in India are referred to as Indian Americans.
This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the same title. If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article.
OK. Let's look at Wikipedia's
Native Americans in the United States
Native Americans are the indigenous peoples from the regions of North America now encompassed by the continental United States, including parts of Alaska. They comprise a large number of distinct tribes, states, and ethnic groups, many of which are still enduring as political communities. There is some controversy surrounding the names used: they are also known as American Indians, Indians, Amerindians, Amerinds, or Indigenous, Aboriginal or Original Americans. In Canada they are known as First Nations.
The U.S. states and several of the inhabited insular areas that are not part of the continental U.S. also contain indigenous groups. Some of these other indigenous peoples in the United States, including the Inuit, Yupik Eskimos, and Aleuts, are not always counted as Native Americans, although Census 2000 demographics ...
The European colonization of the Americas decimated the populations and cultures of the Native Americans. During the fifteenth through nineteenth centuries, their populations were ravaged by disease, displacement, enslavement, internal warfare, as well as conflicts with European explorers and colonists....
Along with thousands more words, hundreds of citations, links and further avenues for investigation.
And that tells the tale: the Wikipedia is meant as a springboard for inquiry, for thought, for research. Conservapedia is meant to cut off inquiry, stifle thought, and truncate research.
And, as such, one must juxtapose the inhibition of truth (by limiting and creating an alternative semantic universe, simple, and uncomplicated, a la Schlafly's "Conservapedia") with the Christic dictum "Ye Shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall make you free." (The Gospel of John, 8:32 KJV)
And there is a political agenda, as well. Take a look at the astigmatic lens through which THIS Conservapedia entry is refracted:
Michael Moore (born April 23, 1954) is an Academy Award winning filmmaker and bestselling author who presents left wing views in a polemical way.
Before producing "Bowling for Colmubine," (sic) Moore was the producer and host of the television series "The Awful Truth," which was typified by a type of sketch-comedy activism that was often directed against large corporations and government agencies.
He is well-known as a practicing Catholic who tithes 10% of his income to the Church, a socialist and a member of the National Rifle Association (who joined it hoping to eventually dismantle the organization). He has been an outspoken critic of the administration of President George W Bush.
Some of his work includes the documentary films Farenheit 9/11, Roger and Me, and Bowling for Columbine, and the books Dude, Where's my Country, Downsize This! Random Threats from an Unarmed American. and Stupid White Men.
And here's the hyperlink to "Left wing" (most of Conservapedia has never heard, evidently, of hypertext, which stands to reason, since the homeskoolerz who put this abomination together are mostly being homeskooled by neanderthal parents who are still wary of the newfangled innovations of the 'wheel,' 'fire,' and 'hygene.'):
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Liberal is a term used in US politics to describe a person who generally is left-wing in his attitudes towards the government, establishment, and many other laws. The term was first used in reference to a political opinion c. 1801 A.D., in the aftermath of the French Revolution, when it meant "tending in favor of freedom and democracy" - at that time the liberal party was the party of individual political freedoms.
The term liberal is used in the United States to characterize the following set of beliefs:
Liberals in the US typically align themselves with the Democratic Party. Note, that liberal in the European context refers to moderate and center-right parties, often with a pro-business stance. The same holds for many liberal parties throughout the world.. The US definition of liberal is much more similar to the politics of European socialist or social democratic parties..
- support of gun control
- taxpayer funding of abortion
- prohibiting prayer in school
- equal rights for men and women, including participation by men and women in the military
- distributing wealth from the rich to the poor
- government programs to rehabilitate criminals
- same-sex marriage
- amnesty for illegal aliens
- teaching of evolution
- increased taxpayer funding of public school
- protection of all of God's creation
- taxpayer-funded rather than private medical care
- increased power for labor unions
- disarmament treaties
- increased taxes
- support of government programs such as welfare
- reduction of military expenses
- support of affirmative action
- government-sponsored education about human reproduction
An alternative definition of liberal is anything that is not conservative. For example, the American Heritage Dictionary includes this definition of "liberal":
Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas ...
1. Etymology 
Tell me there's not a political agenda here. What we would refer to as "brainwashing" out here in Realityland. Let's just ignore the implicit slurs and convenient mischaracterizations involved.
Michael Moore is a socialist, baby-killing, miscegenation-and-homosexual promoting left-wing liberal (note how "left wing" morphed into "liberal" across the hypertext link), and probably OUGHT to be killed, BUT he goes to Catholic church and tithes, so slaughter him AFTER the Unbelievers, OK, kiddies?
This Schlafly offspring offers a powerful rationale in favor of abortion by his very existence. That may seem harsh, or even cruel. No: this is the kind of madness that leads to every horror that man visits on his fellow man, and we might as well cut to the chase. Schlafly isn't misguided, nor is he merely a buffoon to be laughed out of town. He is a monster-in-training, and if that isn't an argument for the benefits of therapeutic abortion, then I'm the Easter Bunny. (What color would you like your eggs?)
Then again, perhaps I'm overreacting.
Schlafly might just be an asterisk in history, although I'd prefer that we not take the risk on this ass. However, until it becomes legal (via the civil war that a generation of zombies raised on this Krap might start), I think that we should refrain from shooting him.
[At that point, however, I must reiterate that I've got dibs on Rush. Hannity, Coulter, O'Reilly, et al -- take your pick. But I get Rush.]
Of course, when you consider the truly awesome lameness of this Conservapedia Entry, you can't fully appreciate ... well, I'm getting ahead of the joke. This is the actual text, unintentionally hilarious as it already is:
Spartan Soldiers are considered to be some of the greatest fighters ever. Every Spartan boy was trained in the army. When a Spartan child was born he or she would be examined, and if it was a strong and healthy boy he would grow up to be a soldier, and if it was crippled it would be left on the mountainside to die. A strong girl would grow up to be a good mother and if weak would also be cast onto the mountainside. If a Spartan boy was caught stealing he would be beaten severely, not because he had stolen but because he was caught. The boys started their training at age seven and served in the army most of their life. It was considered an honor to die in battle. It was also a disgrace to lose a battle and come home still alive. You may ask who did all the farm work to feed the city-state? As it turns out, the Spartans conquered many countries and brought the conquered natives back to do their farming.
The Battle of Thermopylae
The most famous battle involving Spartan soliders (sic) was that of Thermopylae where, in 480 BC, a force of 300 hoplites under command of King Leonidas held back a massive Persian army under command of Xerxes.
Jeepers, I'm actually old enough to remember that "Classics Illustrated" comics were a deeper and more scholarly source than this! (And note that Conservapedia has outright stolen Wikipedia's format. How much more plagiarism is contained on the site is anybody's guess.)
You have to appreciate blogger "flickertail"s hilarious little jape (slipping in this editing, since removed. Read the WHOLE post.):
Flickertail, here at Zug, we salute you! (But beware of Goat-Man.)
The sad fact is that most credulous readers of Conservapedia could easily be persuaded that the Spartans DID battle Orcs with hand grenades.
Well, as I noted there: satire has to be the first response. But make no mistake, these moonbats aren't harmless. These moonbats bite, and when they turn rabid, satire doesn't work. But for the nonce, let's just laugh at the misbegotten son of a Schlafly, and his vile attempt to remove fact from the debate.
After all, everybody knows that Jesus rode a dinosaur* to church, right?
*Oh, all right. Since you have to know, here's "Conservapedia" on dinosaurs:
(Redirected from Dinosaurs)
The word dinosaur was coined in 1841 by Richard Owen, from the Greek for "terrible lizard" (fututor). Dinosaurs were a group of large reptiles that previously lived in abundance on Earth.
Creationist scientists believe that dinosaurs and man coexisted based on a number of pieces of evidence rather than the evolutionary view that dinosaurs existed millions of years ago.
Dinosaur species were immensely varied, from herbivores to carnivores. Although many have been found in the fossil record, paleontologists expect that they have barely scratched the surface of the vast genus that the dinosaurs encompassed.
Humans and Dinosaurs Coexisting
There are a number of lines of evidence that point to dinosaurs and man coexisting. For example, explorers have reported seeing a live dinosaur. A thousand people reported seeing a dinosaur-like monster in two sightings around Sayram Lake in Xinjiang according to the Chinese publication, China Today. An expedition which included Charles W. Gilmore, Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology with the United States National Museum, examined an ancient pictograph which is claimed to portray dinosaurs and man coexisting. The World Book Encyclopedia states that: "The dragons of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles [dinosaurs] which inhabited the earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on earth. Dragons were generally evil and destructive. Every country had them in its mythology." The Nile Mosaic of Palestrina, a second century piece of art, is said to appear to be a piece of artwork that shows a dinosaur and man coexisting.
An alternate theory for the inclusion of dinosaurs within many cultures is the existence of fossils. Ancient people, unaware that the ancient fossils uncovered by erosion were of extinct animals, attributed the bones to living, magical creatures. This would explain the importance of dragons in Chinese culture - there are a large number of dinosaur (as well as non-dinosaur) fossils to be found in China.
Dinosaurs and Creationism
Some Christians reject the Theory of Evolution and the current science community consensus of the age of the earth. Of those Christians who reject evolution, the Young Earth Creationists believe, based primarily on Biblical sources, but also drawing on archeological and fossil evidence, that dinosaurs were created on the 6th day of the Creation Week as a final addendum to the wonders God created, approximately 6,000 years ago; that they lived in the Garden of Eden in harmony with other animals, eating only plants; that pairs of various dinosaurs were taken onto Noah's Ark during the Great Flood and were preserved from drowning; that fossilized dinosaur bones originated during the mass killing of the Flood; and that some descendants of those dinosaurs taken aboard the Ark still roam the earth today, even though none of the six billion people currently residing on the planet have seen them. It should be noted that none of these claims have been backed by any serious scientific research, and rely almost wholly either on the infallibility of the Bible, or on human speculations based to a greater or lesser degree upon the Biblical account. Ken Ham states the theory that Dinosaurs were killed during the great flood, buried in mud and then fossilized.
Because the term only came into use in the 19th century, the Bible obviously does not use the word "dinosaur." However, they are alleged to be mentioned in numerous places throughout the biblical account. For example, the behemoth in Job and the leviathan in Isaiah are sometimes said to be references to dinosaurs, although some reject this view, saying that behemoth was a hippopotamus and leviathan was a crocodile. There is a problem with this view, however, such as the fact that a hippo doesn't have a "tail like a cedar" and a crocodile does not accurately match the description of leviathan.
References [NB: there are 17 references, mostly to "Creationist" websites].
Just remember: these are the same ignorant assholes who, for a hundred years claimed that the fossils were just misshapen crocodiles and "giants" and other Krazy Stuff from their misreading of mistranslations of the Pentateuch. They may well be the descendents of those brave souls who justified black slavery in America via the Bible. Hell, the Mormons still believe that blackness is the "Mark of Cain," after all. And I believe with all my heart, that Mormon homeschoolers are EXACTLY the target audience for Conservapedia.
Look, if you "True Believers" don't LIKE our science, then don't use it.
You can't hypocritically try to use the same technology and science you imply is "of the Devil" to spread your "Creed." That's like killing in the name of Jesus.
(Oh. Whoops. Sorry. Never mind.)
Call it a spelling flame, if you will, but it is an undeniable statement of fact (as opposed to a huge chunk of "Conservapedia") that Conservapedia is, in part, put together by Fundamentalist dumbasses too dumb to spell "fundamental."
From the conclusion to 1495-word entry on "Genesis":
Importance to Creation Science
Creationists use the first part of Genesis as evidence of the creation of the Earth in seven days. This book is fundemental [sic] to the entire study of Creation Science.
"1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth..."
[And then, as the majority of their entry ON Genesis, quote all of the first chapter, and a goodly part of the second chapter ... in TOTO, and without commentary, concluding]
2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil."
References [note: all three of them. Wikipedia: 8982 word entry with 86 references and another thirty books, links, citations, etc.]
[This page was last modified 20:03, 14 March 2007. This page has been accessed 137 times.]
- Who Wrote The Pentateuch, The Five Books of Moses?
- Introduction to Genesis & the Pentateuch
- (Genesis 1:1-31 and 2:1-9, KJV)
And, lest you think I was being selective, those are just the first several entries I accessed. There are deep veins of unintentional humor left to be mined from Conservapedia, and, I promise, the "mountaintop removal" mining has only just begun. Whether it's a renewable resource or not, Conservapedia can supply nearly all of this blog's humor needs for the foreseeable future, I can assure you. The dread specter of the humor cartel shutting off the laff spigots is a thing of the past. America, we have entered a new and glorious Era of satire.
Conservapedia: The hilarious "encyclopedia" that couldn't afford a spell-checker.
So, Krazy Khristian Konservatives: here's a "tree of knowledge" that you bite into -- as in the first recorded case -- at your peril. You've been warned.